Bills introduce to manage downtown from state legislature

Two bills (SB 5799 and 5800) were introduced this morning to the state senate that address the recent local kerfuffle over building heights in downtown Olympia. Both bills would limit building heights in Olympia based on how they impact views from the capitol campus.

You can read SB 5799 and 5800 on scribd.

Via email from Jerry Reilly:

The first bill, SB 5799, creates a state capitol campus special height district to protect views from and to the Capitol across the Isthmus. The bill limits new or remodeled buildings to no more that 35 feet. This is the current limit on the isthmus prior to the rezone for which the the city is now seeking state approval.

And, regarding the second bill, which would declare the isthmus portion of downtown as a "shoreline of statewide significance":

The intent section of SB 5800 declares that "The vista is an integral part of the design of the state capitol campus. The state's founders sited the capitol campus in its location principally to take advantage of this expansive vista: Is representative of much of the physical characteristics of very large areas of the state; provides a visual and physical connection between the capitol and Puget Sound; is inspirational; and promotes an appreciation of the scenic grandeur and rich natural resources of our state".

Both of the bills are sponsored locally by senators Karen Fraser and Dan Swecker. They're being referred to the Senate Government Operations and Elections Committee, which is chaired by another co-sponsor, Sen. Darelene Fairly. This likely means that they already have enough support to make it through committee. The last co-sponsor is caucus chair (second in leadership) Sen. Ed Murray. These bills have pretty heavy support it seems.

I know what I think about this (seems a bit heavy handed), but what do you think?

Comments

Once again Emmett scoops the Olympia

The Olympian ran a story on Sen. Fraiser's bills today, 4 days after Emmett broke the story here. In all fairness the Olympian's article is well written and contains quotes from a half dozen interested parties but I bet it was Emmett's initial post that sent Brad Shannon and Matt Batcheldor scurrying to the phones.

City/State Relationship Regarding Money

My understanding is that the State is quite generous with regard for funding of City programs and projects.





well...

... from what I heard is: as the largest employer they obviously don't pay any property taxes, just imagine, what Olympia could do, if they would get property taxes off of all the land they own in Olympia. Also, don't they own quite a bit of land in downtown, that they just leave empty... not sure if the word "eminent domain" would fit somewhere in there... just wondering out loud....

mathias

einmaleins

I'm pretty sure both Brad

I'm pretty sure both Brad (covers the Leg) and Matt (platoon reporter) know when bills are introduced and where to look.  Taking nothing away from Emmett as I read both bills (5799 is laughable) before today's article.

Thanks, Emmett.

Brad had it up on his blog

Brad had it up on his blog a few hours after me.

On the other hand, I wouldn't say that Brad and Matt got more quotes than me, everyone on the comment thread here is a quote. Just because the assistant city manager, mayor and Jerry Reilly don't post to blogs doesn't mean they can't.

full disclosure

moreso...

...than any other city in WA?

Does Oly get more money than other cities just for for being the capital?

Seems that the State lines up cash for Seattle all the time (and E. WA too =).

Oly is lucky to have the State biz just for trickle-down...think what would happen if folks telecommuted for GOV biz in town? ...some of that cash for Oly would dry up-

-but then maybe property tax would go down?

 

chad360

Oh am I feel Prophetic this morning

Olympia exists because we are the seat of State government. Nothing of consequence is over in this town until the 10,000lb elephant trumpets. Every so often the Legislature likes to remind us Olympians, so humble in our perfection, of the facts.

This latest twist should come as no great suprise as Karen, Sam and Brenden have been politely broadcasting their reservations throughout the debate on the rezone.

And now more prophecy:

  • The city council, the Olympian editorial board and Triways will scream and squawk the Ledgie's unilateral action is the greatest injustice in the course of human history and predict no less than the end of Capitalism and Democracy. After ventilating for a week, all will go back about their business.
  • Berd will author a paean to the wisdom of Sen. Fraiser and Sen. Swecker. He will be embarrassed on learning more about Sen Swecker's record but keep it to himself.
  • My good friend Mr. Stroble will have a few sharp observations as well.

Good call on the Zero

Here's the editorial, if anyone even needs to read it -- it's pretty predictable!

And dead on.

And dead on.

It was a bit more hysterical than I predicted

So hysterical in fact the Zero's editorial board developed a case of potty mouth. Butt. They said butt. Hehehe Hehehe Hehehe...

There was a nice piece of Newspeak in the editorial that should not go unmentioned. The Editorial uses the heavily attended public hearing and the flurry of public communication to the city council on the rezone to support their pro-rezone position without mentioning the sentiment in all that public communication ran 80% opposed to the rezone.

I am still an agnostic on the rezone. I just want it debated openly and honestly. The Zip's editorial did neither.

They exceded the hight limits of irony.

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Zing!

You should write these

You should write these editorials for them, Guglielmo. This one was dull as dishwater. What happened to the good old days, when editorials rhymed; remember "End the Blight, Approve the Height"? Now that was fine prose, well, poetry really, even if it was balderdash. The O's editorials used to accuse urban nihilists of shouting "tired tirades," and accuse anti-rezoners of being obstructionists bent on emotional terrorism. Now that was hyperbole! This editorial just asks stupid, angry old man questions like "Where does it stop? Will lawmakers dictate other land-use decisions in Olympia simply because Olympia is the seat of state government?" <snooze>

Not to mention hyperbole

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Limit on Building Heights

It's interesting that it not only limits heights to 35 feet on new buildings, but remodeled buildings as well. What does that say about the future of the Capitol Center Building?

I hope these bills pass, they would make the likelihood of creating a park on Cheetwoot all the more likely.





Heavy-handed

I'm pleased to see that Senators Fraser and Swecker are responsive to the will of their constituents. If only the City Council were so heavy-handed!

Hmm...

It's getting pretty late for a bill to be introduced and still have a good chance of passing, but I think you all could get this done. If a bunch of Olympians met with legislators, and if Ralph Munro and the ex-governors join in, one of those bills (probably 5799) could have a good shot. The key is to get it scheduled for a public hearing within the next couple weeks. Senator Fairley chairs the Government Operations & Elections Committee, which is probably where 5799 will get assigned. She'd probably be pretty easy to convince to give it a hearing, then everyone who showed up at the planning commission and council meetings could pack the hearing room... This could be interesting... And has anyone talked to Sam Hunt about sponsoring a companion measure in the House?

Fraser and Swecker

Should immediately leave their seats and run for Olympia city council.  No need for us to have a council when we've got these wise folks micro-legislating for us.

Beautiful

Another reminder Oly really belongs to the whole state. If you want to be the Cap City, then there are sacrifices. I'm sure Ellensburg would love to pick up the torch if you guys are not up to it. Frankly, E-Burg makes more sense as a center of government to me.

Maybe the time has come for pro-park and pro-highrise folks to reconsider my compromise idea? Yeah, I know, I'm an eccentric nut. But I still like this concept of a pedestrian-only core as something that will help revitalize downtown Oly businesses and keep the isthmus clear of Babbitt Towers.

When I originally asked people to brainstorm, I was met with why it couldn't be done-- which sort of kills the idea of brainstorming. But I don't accept that kind of defeatism. My idea will work. It deserves serious consideration. 

 

chipping in

If we belong to the rest of the state, do you think they'd mind chipping in a bit and paying for some of our cost of being a city?

full disclosure

Emmitt, they do.

It's in the form of the million and millions in wages paid to state workers living in Olympia and Thurston county.

The less snarky answer is something Oly2012 suggested, a Capital City District.It would return a portion of the state sales tax infrastructure spending.

And the snarkyest answer of all is of course turn Olympia into a petting zoo. 

Cap City District

To get one bill passed for another, would be an interesting trade off... 

You get your views, we get the money...

Oh I feel so dirty! 

 

mathias

einmaleins

Dirty and dirtier

Don't worry einmaleins, you still seem relatively uncorrupted. My immediate reaction was much slimier: why should they give us a capital city district? We have no votes to trade.

If a heavy hand is what it takes...

...to slap those council punks down to earth, I'm all for it!

The Citiy's single largest employer speaks.

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I wish

they would be speaking with they money a little more... ... and not just their employee's spending....

mathias

einmaleins

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