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Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 10:47am.
Just move to Olympia's east side from Seattle by way of a 7-month detour in Florida. Here are some initial observations about the folks in this town. - Extra friendly. From what I've noticed, coffee shop chatter in Seattle is usually rather clique-ish. If you see a barista talking to a customer and you jut in, they'll give you this look that express a general "Why are you talking?" sentiment. In Olympia, however, just about everyone greets me with gleaming eyes and invitational conversation. Good customer service training? Or just a friendly culture?
- Extra courteous. Every single time I've gone to The Reef (three or four times, I think), one guy or another (not employees) has gone out of his way to hold the door open for me.
- But they expect you to be extra courteous, too! I used a crosswalk across State sort of near Eastside Ave on a weekday morning. When I cross the street, I always look directly at the drivers facing me so I can get a little more "pedestrian power" over them. I did this with a woman driving a truck and she stopped for me. After I'd finish crossing, she sped by, rolled down her window, and yelled, "You're welcome!" Was I supposed to thank her for following the law?
- Hoodies and jeans. I feel like I'm the only square in town under 30 with my big black wool coat. And I was all about the hoody for the first 21 years of my life. Still, they're cheap and comfortable and maybe it's easier to layer than to lug around big coats, especially when it's only sprinkling and tends not to rain hard.
- Bicycle town. Not a pedestrian town (except maybe an 8x8 block section of downtown), sort of a car town, definitely a bike town. And yet... I see so few bikers here on the east side. Still, there are bike lanes in areas where there are no sidewalks. Seems a little strange. And I get the impression that bicyclists prefer to use the side residential streets rather than 4th or State to move across the east side.
- Liberal? Conservative? Okay! You know, down in Florida, there are a couple pro football teams and a few college football teams. EVERYONE there is strongly affiliated with one. It's their team, they root for it, they talk about the players all the time, and they have a really crappy weekend if one of their teams loses. In Olympia, the politics feel like they're the same way. You put your stickers on your car, you're all about your political "team," be it a candidate or an agenda, but Olympians seem much less pushy about politics than Seattlites. I'm used to right-to-lifers and fundamentalists shoving Bibles in my face while LaRouchians, socialists, and animal rights activists yell across any given public space. That just doesn't seem to be a reality here, and maybe it's because "territories" for each side are more obviously marked and there's less "common ground" for the two different sides to meet on. Or maybe it's just because I'm not going to college anymore.
Overall, I love it here.
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Welcome back, micah
Submitted by Rick on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 10:57am.When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
WILL THE REAL MICAH PLEASE
Submitted by eelcozy on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 2:48pm.*STANDS UP*
SUP GUYS?
Not that I'm the first Micah
Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:05pm.That Micah?
Submitted by Sarah on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:35am.I guess I'm the other Micah,
Submitted by micah on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 10:52am.It's ok
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 10:58am.Thanks. =)
Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:04pm.You're definitely not
Submitted by chaney on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 11:48am.Extra Friendly?
Submitted by Rob Richards on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 12:04pm.“One man scorned and covered with scars still strove with his last ounce of courage to reach the unreachable stars; and the world was better for this.
I've seen that
Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:13pm.I think Western Washington
Submitted by OlyCop on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 12:18pm.is much more phoney in the friendliness area than Eastern Washington. Very much on the surface, a smile here a nod there, but no core warmth. In Eastern Washington there seems to be a geniune friendliness, or so it seems based on my interaction. One of the many ways Eastern Washington is much different than over here.
As for the crosswalk incident you mention, perhaps she didn't have to stop, but chose to to be kind. Many pedestrians here in Oly don't know the law in regards to when a car has to yield to them. They will stand next to the crosswalk on the sidewalk, expecting people to stop for them. The courteous thing to do would be to stop for them if it appears they want to cross. But vehicles don't have to yield to you until you step into the crosswalk (and on their portion of the roadway). This applies to uncontrolled (no pedestrian lights) crosswalks.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
"You're welcome!"
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 1:24pm.Either way, in any situation, reciprocal niceness is a good thing.
people dont trust the police
Submitted by will_is_ok on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 4:23pm.Funny Quote
Submitted by olyrickm on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 4:56pm.Oh, no, she did have to
Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:01pm.Hoodies and jeans
Submitted by JulieM on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 12:25pm.As someone who grew up in
Submitted by NWarty on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 2:13pm.As someone who grew up in the South and went to College in the Deep South and has lived all across the country (I've moved 32 times), Washington State is not particularly over-friendly. Most people keep to themselves. More than 75% of the time I say hello to someone on the sidewalk in Oly, I get no response.
I wouldn't call Olympia super friendly or even friendly, but maybe cordial and "keep to myself" kind of attitude. But that's my view as I've lived just about everywhere, West Coast, East Coast, Midwest, Deep South, New South, blah blah blah.
I think you may be right (I
Submitted by micah on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:03pm.Micah,It's absolutely
Submitted by NWarty on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:27pm.Micah,
I think you're probably right about Seattle, but I've never lived north of here, so it's difficult for me to relate.
t's absolutely amazing any time I go back home or visit the south. The last two times have been for my sister's wedding and Katrina relief down in New Orleans. People are "bend over backwards nice" down south and it's geniune for the most part. It's funny to hear my wife comment "Everyone's so nice here. It's weird"
I miss those little things about the south.
23 years in Olywa
Submitted by olyrickm on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 4:11pm.Yeah, I hear you
Submitted by Summerisle on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 11:30pm.Welcome, Micah
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:40pm.Anyway, welcome to Oly. I'm sure I'll be seeing you at the Reef. I'm the redhead in the black wool hoody (handknit in Nepal), and most likely I'll be with my daughter, who has even redder hair, and a black hoody that says "I (heart) Oly."
I know what you mean will_is_ok
Submitted by OlyCop on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 6:41pm.I don't trust the police either. But I was relating my experiance from off-duty encounters. I have to agree, people are more friendly here than in Seattle.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
good
Submitted by will_is_ok on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 11:41pm.Olympia could sure use a lot
Submitted by Bricks Jesmin on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 3:52pm.Emmett laughs to self
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 4:12pm.Are you doing your art on
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 4:30pm.The back of a building
Submitted by Bricks Jesmin on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:22pm.Anyone feel free to step
Submitted by NWarty on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:24pm.putting it lightly, there are other ways to look at that
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:32pm.And, in a strict sense, "appreciating" art is "judging it" or rather forming an opinion based on their observation of it. If you don't like someone's opinion of your art, then tough, I guess. Not every likes Monet either. But, then again, he painted on canvas too.
Back of building = property.
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:41pm.Back of building = property. Building = property. I'd love for you to point out to me in WAC's where it states that the back of a building does not count as property.
I'm one of those not nice people. If you decided to tag the back of my building you probably would not be happy with my response.
People who can't differentiate between someone elses property and their own, need to look into being far less artistic.
EDITED: I needed a comma
I thought the black hoody
Submitted by NWarty on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 5:15pm.I thought the black hoody thing was hilarious until I actually started counting the number of black hoodies on the way back from lunch today. Too funny
Hell, it could be Oly's version of "Slugbug" POW!
I've always thought Olympia
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 6:13pm.I've always thought Olympia was pretty nice. Probably my only exception was down at the protests, everyone seemed to think I was something that I'm not.
I smiled and said, "Good evening" to an older woman walking down the street a year or so ago, and she stopped and commented how nobody ever says things like that to her anymore (she then adjusted my shirt and tugged at my jacket, I'm assuming she was fixing my clothing) so maybe it's a certain age-group or clique also?
I try and be thoughtful toward pedestrians, but have caught myself completely missing them at times also (If it's dark or really bright out, watch where you cross at folks) I think everyone, driver and pedestrian both, need to keep a good awareness of their surroundings. I've never forced a car to stop for me, I've either had ample time to cross, or they stopped while I stood on the sidewalk.
hay
Submitted by eelcozy on Thu, 01/25/2007 - 4:30pm.you know, cause
I think Olympia is certainly
Submitted by Jade on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 12:03am.But I just got back from my first ever (!) visit to the South, and it seems to be a whole different world down there. I started to feel like an inconsiderate jerk, everyone was so gracious and really took time to acknowlege one another in a way that I have not experienced in the Northwest, which I think of as a pretty friendly region. I guess that is what people mean when they talk about "Southern hospitality". I thought it was just a legend.;-)
Jade
Jade,Good to see you got a
Submitted by NWarty on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 11:04am.Jade,
Good to see you got a taste of it. Fortunately it's still alive and well in many areas of the South.