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Submitted by Ehver Green on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 3:56pm.

Yes, you read the headline right.  Baseball though, not conscription.

Shocked isn't the right word.  Appalled, maybe.  Sad, definitely.

I'll set the scene.  Around 2:30pm this afternoon I took my 8 year old son Sam to Tumwater High School to register him for baseball.  He played T-Ball a few years ago and didn't really enjoy himself but wanted to give it another shot and I agree with him.

Since the initial season of baseball he's played two years of football and basketball and found his rhythm as an athlete on the grow.  He has a long way to go but his progress is highly commendable.  I am extremely proud of his dedication even when he continually struggles against more gifted athletes.  He never quits.

Having been told this was a "tryout" I was a little concerned for Sam.  Everyone plays, sure.  But how much?  Is this tryout serious?  Should we have skipped basketball this morning to ready his groundball skills?  I watched him take a couple grounders to the face a few days ago because he won't sit in his seat while fielding.  Same thing in the classroom.

When it was our turn to hand in our registration we were asked to come back at 4:30pm and given a number.  More kids than anticipated had registered.  No big deal.  My curiosity began to peak and I decided to ask about this tryout and why the number?  I mean, he has a name.  The friendly woman at the registration desk suggested I look in the gym to better understand what was expected of Sam later this afternoon.

WOW!

Tumwater High's gym was setup in a mock diamond.  Fielding taking place in the corner.  A pitching machine hurling baseballs at 40-45 mph.  The usual practice space when it's cold and wet outside.  It became clear why we needed a number when I looked right.  There were tens of coaches filling up the bleachers scouting our kids based on their performance and the better the player the more pencils moved.

These lists become each coaches draft sheet this Sunday morning at 7:30am.  Whatever happened to Lakes #1, and Lakes #2, when Lakes #1 got to be too big?  It sure is a different world out there when it comes to children and competition.  A sad world.

Thumbs down to Black Hills Youth Baseball (BHYB) and the process by which they build baseball teams for 8 year olds.  Even high school kids aren't subjected to a draft.  I'm a parent, not an agent.

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Ri-efing-dicuous!!

What the hell is wrong with people?
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Is this league formerly

Is this league formerly known as Bambino?

If so, I played in this league from 4th - 6th grades and there has always been a try-out and a draft.

There were three separate divisions (Major, Major-Minor and Minor) when I played, with Major being the most competitive and Minor being the least competitive (this is based on skill level).

Although a draft and assignment to division based on skill may sound a bit harsh, it's actually an excellent way to allow those whose skills have developed to compete against one another and those who need to refine some things to do so against competition of a similar level.

Once you hit Prep 13 and then the older league (I believe it's called 14-15 but I can't remember) there are cuts. Simply put, if you aren't good enough you won't be on a team.

One thing to also remember is that there is a lot of politics going on in the background with youth baseball. When you get to the high school level with the high school coaches you'll see less of it.

I only played baseball until freshman year. Sophomore year I had to make the decision whether to concentrate on soccer (playing club soccer is an 11-month a year commitment; then in the spring you "double-up" on club and high school) or baseball. I decided on soccer.

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That's Really Sad

Kids should be allowed to be kids and not have to worry about competing for spots on teams until they're in high school, especially if the parents are paying for them to play!
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Again, you're not competing

Again, you're not competing for a spot on a team until 14-15 (which is 8th grade/freshman/sophomore, depending on whether you're older or younger for your grade level.

You're competing for which division is the best for your skill level at the lower level).

I'm almost certain that everyone makes a Prep 13 team, but don't quote me on it.

Putting kids in the appropriate division is the best option, in my opinion. For those whose skills are more honed, it allows them to further better themselves against similar competition. For those who need to work on some areas of their game, they can do so without being blown out of the water.

What good does it do for a kid who is already struggling to go up against someone who has more athletic talents? The same for the athletic kid. In the long run, neither party gets better.

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I See Your Point

given I work with the Youth Athletic Bowling Association here in town, we do try to match skill levels when putting teams together. We have different levels for kids and before they can move to the next level up they either have to prove their skills to the coaches or move up because of age.

But we have also found that those with lower bowling skills tend to pay close attention to those with higher skills and strive to bowl like them and as well as them!

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There are leagues other than

There are leagues other than local recreation leagues where this level of competition takes place.  I understand some think it's a good idea to build teams this way.  I'm not one of them.

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As a 10 year old, I was cut from the 12th Street Giants

and put on the 12th Street Braves, for whom I pitched two no-hitters that year.  The Giants (mostly friends of ours) beat us, but there was still plenty of satisfaction.

I coached Little Leagues for kids other than mine.  It sucked.  Junior Football was fine, because unless it was unsafe, we found a place for every kid.

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North Beach Elementary

North Beach Elementary school district in the 80s was simple. You played for the town you lived in and were only separated into Majors, Minors and T-Ball for the youngest.
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