How did smashing US Bank's windows aid the peace effort?

Please give me a second grace. Please give me a second face. I've fallen far down, the first time around, now I just sit on the ground in your way.
Nick Drake

Lame.  Blaming Baird for what happened last night does not absolve you of anything.  In fact, it makes you sound like a whiner.  Own up, own up.

I guess the headline should read: "Baird Breaks Windows at US Bank"

Is this your attempt at moving the PR machine in the favor of protestors?  You've lost the PR battle, long ago, I'm afraid.

You guys sound like a bunch of bullies.

If you want to hear things that only validate your narrow understanding of what's happening, go watch Fox News.

It is not your responsibility to express your opinion at every possible opportunity. I think we're pretty clear about how you feel. Let someone else have the floor for a minute, especially if it results in a fruitful discussion, instead of getting in everyone's face. Geeze.

Say something interesting or don't say anything.

The person made a very interesting point that really no politician has shown a leadership role here. If y'all would stop throwing spitballs long enough to listen, there might be a conversation there. Does it make sense now, Norm?

Not even the entirely correct forum, but the attitudes are here, as is the ignorance and utter incapability of reasoned thought.

Protesting the return of equipment from a war is idiotic at best. Great, don't like the war, the administration, pasta, whatever. That's what 2008 is for. I thought we were going to be out of Iraq after we elected this last batch. Wasn't that the premise many who won ran on? Are we admitting that the Democratic party did indeed dupe their constituents?

In any case, the hypocritical protesters are serving to do only one thing, which is to make sure that soldiers are receiving less training that will potentially save their lives when they go back, because their equipment is stuck in a port due to a handful of people that can't actually take a solid stand and say what they really believe. It is obvious to thosee that can take a bit broader view of what is going on to see that the protesters are directly affecting the lives of the soldiers who use this equipment. If you think going into combat is as simple as putting a gun into someones hand, you've been playing too much Halo. Every day this equipment sits somewhere unused for whatever reason, it's time taken away from the people that count on it for survival. Explain that away, please. I can't believe some actually placed flowers, with a knife behind their back.

The protesters might get some respect if they'd just stand up and say "we hate those who started and now manage this war, we hate the military, everyone in it, anyone who may profit or support it, and this is how we show it", but instead of potentially alienating a large percentage of the population who is also anti-war by showing their true beliefs, the protesters have instead chosen a different way of protesting, which on the surface doesn't seem quite so repugnant. Obviously the extremism can't be entirely contained, or destroying private property that has nothing to do with vehicles being offloaded in a port wouldn't happen.

I hope some that think they support this type of protest will take a moment to reflect on how getting soldiers killed is inline with your beliefs. If you can say "that's an acceptable consequence to my actions" then you've got my respect. Otherwise, you don't have a leg to stand on, because you clearly don't understand the repercussions of your actions on those who use this equipment. I expect the majority to fall in the latter category, because they wouldn't be protesting this way if they were capable of comprehending any of this.

I'm surprised to see you could make it past the first word then.

It never ceases to amaze that those with closed minds are incapable of calmly or rationally discussing a topic. Kind of like the protestors in this case. Perhaps there is a reason these protests are effective, and why they should be held. But from what I've seen so far, it's about putting concrete on railroad tracks and breaking windows of private business. Hasn't done much to sway public opinion, at least not the way intended I'm sure.

Ping pong match would indicate that someone serves and the ball is returned.

Are we ending this on a Patriot Act note?

This email speaks for itself:

On Nov 12, 2007 12:50 AM, Sandy OlyPMR < email addres withheld to prevent censorship > wrote: Just to clarify -- These regularly scheduled events are NOT intended to replace the continuous presence down at the port entrance, still very much needed.

And, although for many of us tomorrow is a holiday from work, that is not the case for Evergreen students, who have to go to school. Evergreen students have been the primary presence at the port. Lets show them we appreciate their efforts by stepping in so they can devote some time to their school work.

-Sandy .........This email speaks for itself It’s up to you to write

Email President Evergreen.... purcel@evergreen.edu

Olympia Mayor Foutch.... mfoutch@ci.olympia.wa.us

Olympia Mayor elect.... dmah@ci.olympia.wa.us

Port Director Galligan.... edg@portolympia.com