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Submitted by Tschida on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 4:19pm.
Read this and found that Mr. D'Souza makes the case more clearly and more convincingly that I am able. Read the entire article here
From the column "Actually Bush Didn't Lie"
"Two leftist organizations have released a study that claims that the Bush administration lied about Iraq. Somehow I think we've heard that one before. Well, the two groups--the Center for Public Integrity and the Fund for Independence in Journalism--managed to secure major media attention by making the claim that the Bush administration released 935 false statements. Clearly no one was in the mood to read all 935, so the leftist groups boiled them down to 532. We hear that on 532 occasions the Bush administration claimed that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. So the claim is not that Bush told 532 lies, but that he told the same lie 532 times.
The column is not all that long and it really does a fine job of refuting the nonsense that goes around pretending to be truth.
Enjoy.
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To be fair,
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 4:42pm.the study D'Souza cites does not say the Bush adminstration actually lied. The Center claims that the administration orchastrated an effort to lead us into the war and they identified the number and timing of false (incorrect) statements used in that orchistration. One cannot conclude from the Center's report that Bush actually lied to get us into the war. Lies of ommission perhaps.
Peace.
Caught in a lie?
Submitted by ctqwn on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 7:40pm.But consider this: If Bush actually knew that Iraq didn't possess weapons of mass destruction, and yet repeatedly told the American people that Iraq had them, didn't Bush expect that following the Iraq invasion his deception would be found out?
Why would being found out be of any real concern to Bush, Cheney, et al? Any politician who's made it to the upper stratosphere of Washington DC politics has had plenty of experience dodging the truth of their actions when necessary, and they're good at it. Maybe this sounds like cynicism, but considering that they have been caught in this elaborate tangle of deceptions and haven't suffered so much as a slap on the wrist, I don't know why anyone familiar w/ GW's history would even ask that question.
I'm not lying until you prove I'm lying
Submitted by Anonymously Larry on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 7:58pm.wasn't this addressed in another blog?
Whether or not Bush et al lied
Submitted by Guglielmo on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:25am.I think you are playing word games...
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:36am.Sorry you think I'm lieing
Submitted by Guglielmo on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:47am.The thing is though,
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:54am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
I didn't mean it as an insult
Submitted by Guglielmo on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 11:12am.Not to pick a fight...
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 11:19am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
No fight
Submitted by Guglielmo on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 11:32am.Got cha...
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 11:58am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
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Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 9:39am. »So,
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:47am.Gug reads these kinds of studies for a living, he disseminates information and presents reports to people the governor and the state Senate (no matter what party is in office in case you were thinking it was a partisan job). The point is that Gug wouldn't come on here and convolute something so that his opinion looks more true. You should trust that Gug will stick to rules of logic and look at information at face value, without skewing it to fit into some partisan argument.