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Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:07pm.
Dec 6 2007 - 6:30pm Dec 6 2007 - 9:00pm 
Organized by The People's Legal Defense Fund. On December 6th, PLDF will be hosting a Know Your Rights workshop at Traditions Cafe in downtown Olympia. Topics will include your rights while interacting with police on the street, as well as at protests. Also discussed will be your rights in the legal system. After the speakers, Larry Hildes, a lawyer who commonly represents activists and serves as a legal observer at protests, and Karen Hildes, will be available to speak with people who were arrested at the Port of Olympia, or feel their rights have been violated by the police. Looking forward to seeing you there for an informational and community building evening. Rob Richards and Mark Wedeven, |
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Submitted by Ehver Green on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:15pm.They were invited.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:15pm.Mr. Richards,
Due to on-going investigations and liability issues due to possible law suits, we are unable to participate in either a live Q&A session or to answer questions from OlyBlog. We do appreciate your willingness to include our perspective and to reaching a common ground.
Thank you for your email.
Marianne Wieland
Administrative Secretary
Olympia Police Department
Good for you - did what ya
Submitted by Ehver Green on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:35pm.C'mon
Submitted by curveball on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 9:16pm.Marianne Wieland Is My Neighbor
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 9:41pm.What a great workshop....
Submitted by Debmonstrative on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:18am.The City is Right to Not Answer Questions Now
Submitted by Mike on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 8:21am.The actions of the police at the Port and the negligent and inadequate supervision and direction of the police in responding to the demonstrations have left the City with a huge liability problem. Someone at the Police Department should lose their job for what happened. The City will have to payoff to folks whose civil rights were violated. This is a long, slow process and the payoff will probably come 5 to 8 years from now, but you may mark my words, the City will have to pay damages. Someone at the police department should lose their job long before any payoffs. The police policies talk at length about accountability. Who will account for the police misconduct? I think Police Chief Gary Michel should have to step up and explain how the civil rights violations occurred and what he is going to do to see that this never happens again.
The simple truth is that our civil rights should prevail and when all the costs and benefits are weighed, the Olympia Peace Port is the economically successful model, the Olympia Port for war materials is not an economically successful model. The handwriting is on the wall.
Public Justice
Submitted by Mike on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 8:14am.Can we also invite Brad Moore, the attorney with Stritmatter Law Firm in Seattle?
Brad is the state coordinator for Public Justice, the law firm that represented the demonstraters against the City of Seattle in the WTO police misconduct and won that case.
I think the City Police engaged in misconduct, violated civil rights, did not follow their own policies and were inadequately or negligently directed and supervised during the events at the Port. It is unfortunate but the only way to force the City to properly supervise, direct, and deploy police is to hold the City accountable when the police engage in misconduct. Civil action against the City is an important element in the process of persuading the City and the Port that it will be cheaper and more profitable in the long run to operate the Olympia Peace Port instead of operating the Port for movement of war materials.
Do you have an agenda for this meeting? Can a coordinator for this event contact Brad and include him in the planning now?
Here is contact information from the Public Justice website for Washington State:
Washington
Brad Moore
Stritmatter Kessler Whelan Withey
200 Second Avenue, West
Seattle, Washington 98119-4204
(206) 448-1777
Fax: (206) 728-2131
E-mail: brad@stritmatter.com
Web: www.stritmatter.com
Jeffrey L. Needle
Shorett Lovekin & Young
119 First Avenue, South
Suite 200
Seattle, Washington 98104
(206) 447-1560
Fax: (206) 447-1523
E-mail: jneedlel@wolfenet.com
thanks Mike
Submitted by Rob Richards on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 9:59am.Okay
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 12:34pm.Does anyone have the Clash song of the same title going through their heads right now? :-)
BTW, my particular policy for dealing with the police while exercising a visible and somewhat unpopular right is to always maintain the high ground. Polite actions and speech, articulate arguments, etc... I figure I'll get 'em in the courts if I have to, but have nothing to gain (especially while packing heat) to have a loud argument. A person is never going to win anything with a street encounter if they are being beligerent. Sometimes I will summon a supervisor, sometimes I'll wait and go file a complaint should I feel the need. Make of this what you will, but if I know I am breaking no laws, my goal is to end the encounter, get my gun back and leave. I'll take things up on procedure at my lesuire. Is this always a good practice in every situation? Probably not, just what works for me.
Whatever I feel about the protests per se, I do wish all luck with this endeavor. Knowing one's rights and responsibilities under the law is always a Good Thing.
cool
Submitted by Rob Richards on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:32pm.Maybe because
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:58pm.