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Submitted by jlw on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 1:18pm.
Most people know what to expect from May Day in Olympia. Music, dancing, marching (usually without a permit). Food Not Bombs serving from a big tub of soup. A festival, both to celebrate Beltane, and in honor of those who died so we could have a weekend, overtime pay, and an end to child labor. In recent years, this has been complimented with May Day’s additional focus as an immigrant rights day, and with it a focus on multilingualism and the ongoing ICE raids. All went as expected for most of the day. Indeed, there was music. There was dancing. There was marching (with a legal permit, this year). There were invited speakers, talking about things ranging from the Longshore work stoppage, to the proposal before the Olympia City Council to establish Olympia as a Sanctuary City for war resisters and immigrants. At about 2 p.m., the crowd marched from Sylvester Park to the Capitol Building, with police never far behind. The exorbitant number of State Troopers at the Capitol Building, however, couldn’t stop a few individuals from tagging the interior walls with anarchist graffiti. The vandalism was an immediate source of contention within the group. Open and at times heated debates were held, right there in the State Capitol Building, in front of State Troopers and bystanders. Some defended the actions of the vandals, pointing out that the desecration of government property in no way compares to the violence carried out by that government domestically and abroad. Others, on the other hand, suggested the behavior turns people away, and cited it as the reason the immigrant community no longer comes to May Day in Olympia. The march continued, first to City Hall, and then down 4th Ave. Upon reaching U.S. Bank at 4th and Capitol, a contingent of marchers began hurling rocks at the unsuspecting bank. Two windows were broken, despite the lone security guard’s fervent attempts at shouting down the crowd. Since the action was totally unexpected by everyone around, the march simply continued along its planned route, and none of the rock-throwers were identified. The march turned down 5th Avenue, which runs between Heritage Bank and Bank of America. Once again, people from somewhere in the crowd threw rocks toward BoA. This time, several bank windows were broken. By now, the Olympia police had mobilized, and soon after the window smashing at BoA, several cops swarmed in. But their strategy was not to find the people actually throwing the rocks; they had arrived a moment too late to do that. Hence, their strategy was apparently to grab anyone who looked (to them) like they could have thrown rocks, or more precisely, anyone they could pin this vandalism on. People were singled out of the crowd, dragged into the street and arrested. Not even staying on the sidewalk kept people safe. Cops on bikes swarmed around the crowd, nearly running people right over. Undercover police emerged, pointing their pistols at unarmed protesters. In the end, six people were arrested. As the remaining crowd made its way to OPD Headquarters to await the release of the arrestees, the Olympian was hard at work using the riot to further its own agenda. An online article posted at 4:30 pm on the Olympian website made a point to connect the rock-throwing with some of the guest-speakers invited by march organizers - specifically, the guest-speakers asking people to attend the next City Council meeting to persuade city government to adopt the Sanctuary City proposal. Witnesses report seeing Olympian reporter Christian Hill asking several people outside OPD headquarters if they thought the “violence” at the banks would reflect badly on the Sanctuary City proposal. The Olympian also characterized the march as "disrupting traffic," even though organizers had actually gone through the system this year to acquire a legal permit. This should not be surprising, as the Olympian is routinely nothing more than an unpaid P.R. firm for OPD. Solicitations for information involving the Valentines Day riot at Evergreen are routinely placed on the front page, despite their insurmountable bias and non-existent news value. People will undoubtedly be talking about this May Day riot for years to come, both in our peace and justice community, and in the Olympia community at large. Much of the discussion in the greater community will, sadly, be mediated by the Olympian, at the expense of those who would stand up to imperialism, corporatism, and police brutality. Indeed, there is no justification in comparing the violence perpetrated by these outposts of imperialism and capitalism, both domestically and globally, and a few smashed windows. Nor is the smashing of windows (i.e., attacks on corporate property) a justification for police to attack innocent bystanders (to speak nothing of their failure to bring BoA to justice for its crimes). But does any of this mean smashing windows at a May Day protest is strategically sound? Asking 20 different people from the local anti-imperialist community will get you 20 different answers. Some will rightly point out that tactics need to be escalated if we are to do more than spin our wheels endlessly, while others will point out that needing to do something does not mean that all action is wise. Some will point to the bad press this will undoubtedly bring on all our efforts in the fight for social justice as evidence that May Day 2008 was a fiasco, while others will point out that anybody who is swayed against our cause by seeing people fight back was never bound to be on our side in the first place. Some will see this as an outburst of privileged people unappreciative of the danger they bring on those around them, while others will see this as anti-imperialism stripped of its white middle-class comfort zone. And finally, people will ask, “Was it worth it?" Perhaps, some day, we will as a community decide on an answer.
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Good Grab JLW
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 1:22pm.Protesters shoot selves in foot again
Submitted by briotron on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 3:33pm.I wouldn't be surprised if feds have infiltrated the "anti-imperialist community" here in Oly. Because from what I'm hearing there was nothing intelligent or effective about this May Day rally. I'm pretty out there, I think 9/11 was an inside job, I'm vegan, I hate cars, etc and even I am not won-over to think yeah, gee, I should go to May Day next year!!
RE: "Others, on the other hand, suggested the behavior (graffiti) turns people away, and cited it as the reason the immigrant community no longer comes to May Day in Olympia."
You've got to be kidding me. A pro-immigrant rights, anti- ICE rally without an immigrant community behind it?? Gimmie a break!! It makes me laugh, but it's pretty sad actually.
For the people throwing rocks through the bank windows- would you have done that if you knew your grandmother was in that bank that day?
For the graffiti in the capitol building- I dunno, this may be something. Maybe now when lawmakers and politicians walk through the building and notice the graffiti they will stop and think twice before conducting the rest of their business that day and think to themselves "gee, maybe I should like, just drop everything right now and become an anarchist."
Not all...
Submitted by Just another voice on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 4:02pm.Also, The Olympian said they disrupted traffic, legal or not, you did disrupt the normal flow of traffic. Stop hating just to hate. Stop fighting just to fight.
But I am Just Another Voice
had I been "marching"...
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 4:30pm....I'd just have stopped when it turned ugly.
That is it, I would just have taken myself out of that scene-
-so glad I didn't go!
"tactics need to be escalated"
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 4:34pm.what is next? Carbombs to get attention?
Whomever supports this hooliganism is daft in thinking this is OK behavior~
Perhaps, some day, we will as a community decide on an answer.
Submitted by Laurian on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:05pm.Indeed, there is no justification in comparing the violence perpetrated by these outposts of imperialism and capitalism, both domestically and globally, and a few smashed windows.
Where does this rationalization end? What's a few dead or wounded Olympians in comparison to the global holocaust of Capitalism?
But does any of this mean smashing windows at a May Day protest is strategically sound?
No, smashing windows is a profoundly unsound strategy. To pose the question is evidence of living in a fantasy world of radical politics.
Here's a quarter, buy a clue. The Wobblies LOST. The Weather Underground LOST. The SLA LOST. Without the ability to sustain resistance YOU LOSE and you take your community with you. This was one of the things the Port Resistance folks understood and did a good job addressing. Unless you can sustain a barrage of rocks, you lose and innocent bystanders pay the price of your failure.
What bothers me most is the escalation of physical confrontation with the Police. If the mindless confrontation seen at the Valentine's Day incident and now the May Day fiasco continues people are going to get hurt, and by that I mean suffer permenent, life-changing wounds.
This community member has made his decision. In the future should I encounter a 'protester' tagging a building or window smashing I do what is necessary to stop their behavior up to and including physically preventing them from trashing my neighborhood. I've had it. I'm done with this BS.
THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!
NOW!
Yea, I'm pissed.
Bravo!
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:17pm.This community member has made his decision. In the future should I encounter a 'protester' tagging a building or window smashing I do what is necessary to stop their behavior up to and including physically preventing them from trashing my neighborhood. I've had it. I'm done with this BS.
THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!
How much will our community take before it has had enough? Less police, more community policing? Sounds good to me. I wonder how many like-minded folks would be willing to help "police" the next protest that happens?
This is what facism looks like
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 11:30pm.Keep in mind that the above statements do not make you out to be a fascist, but describe an existing historical dynamic which illustrates what you're feeling (legitimate frustration) and how that emotion is used politically, ultimately, against YOURSELF by those who have shaped your values and expectations.
Easy words from someone
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 11:37pm.Huh?
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 12:20am."Huh?" is a fine response.
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 11:45am.I'm not all that sure what I meant either. Took a lazy short cut. As citizens, there are many things we don't have to worry about that are serious day-to-day concerns for undocumented immigrants. Attending a May Day rally for example. For me it's a matter of convenience. An immigrant needs to consider the risks of exposure.
I am not telling you anything you don't already know. Self-policing reduces the likelihood of violence. By reducing the likelihood of violence, we create a safer atmosphere for immigrants...which sounds like a good thing to do if you want to support immigrant rights. To equate that kind of self-policing with fascist movements is off the mark and discounts the value of fostering a safe environment for all constituents of a movement...including those who are not citizens.
Either we take it upon ourselves or it will be taken upon us. I'm not advocating the level of violence some people are suggesting here. But it's okay to grab an arm that is cocked and ready to throw. It is certainly okay to tell them "not that, not here." Sorry I was so obtuse.
I think an apology is in order, Gug
Submitted by Mike on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 7:47am.I admit what I propose is a poor option
Submitted by Laurian on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 5:36am.Drew, I appreciate you insightful post. It is also quite clear in your comment you are not calling anyone a fascist.
That said, how do the peaceful and anti-corporate majority assemble and not be de-legitimized by the acts of a lunatic minority? Appeals to our higher angels fell on deaf ears. The rock throwers came with malicious intent and all the rhetoric in the world did not stop them.
I earnestly ask because I am out of ideas and what has been tried has failed.
I see it as no different than a community block watch
Submitted by Norm on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 11:02am.It's just extended past your home. If you know that there might be a problem with a certain crowd at a certain time what is wrong with trying to prevent that problem or removing criminals once they create that problem?
What is the alternative Drew? Sit back and watch them do it over and over again? This sht is getting old! I saw pictures of your buddy down there during all of this. He normally stands up for what he believes in, where was his conscience when these morons started breaking windows?
If the cops can't handle it, and nobody else is stepping up, what should we as a community do Drew? Being the poster-boy for copwatch I can't imagine you disagreeing with an idea like this.
If we don't police ourselves, THEY will.
Submitted by Bauermeister on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 12:42pm.Drew,
first off, I'm a historian (ABD), so don't try this smoke-screen of historical references, it doesn't work on me and your parallels are largely spurious.
That being said, I don't think that the larger Olympia activist community is somehow betraying it's ideals if it chooses to actively distance itself from - or ultimately attempts to stop - the thoughtless actions of a few little boys playing revolution.
Don't you try to curb your childrens' behavior in public if it causes harm to others? Shouldn't we?
Oh f*ck*ing g*t *ff y**r h*gh H*rs*
Submitted by chad360 on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 12:00pm.Man, I have had it!
Drew, you act & talk like you are the only thinking individual in Oly with any historical perspective-
I'm sure you feel justified lecturing the rest of us clueless fools (is that how you see us)?
But, I for one, do not need any history lessons and can make up my mind for myself-
BTW, it wasn't "the Italians", I think you are referring to the big M., but I can't tell for sure because you have spewed so much onto this blog that it is hard to tell what (if anything) you stand for-
To keep this in perspective:
Do you support what happened (rock throwing)?
If so, why?
If I'm hearing your response to Norm correctly, you are against citizens trying to stop violence because we are all brain-washed puppets of a fascist state--
>must walk away, stop typing, can't!, Chewie, lock down aux power! aaah the blog is overwhelming me<
The violence is not defensible.
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:08pm.I agree with you, G.
Submitted by jlw on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:13pm.It certainly is a problem
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:35pm.And if they do not remove their masks? If they do act up?
Submitted by Laurian on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 6:08pm.Do you cancel the event? Do you deny the rights of the vast majority to assemble? Self-policing, like any policing, can be confrontational. Gug, if you're not comfortable with that, cool. Just don't chastise, and I say chastise 'cose I know you won't try to stop me, from de-masking the twits.
These bastards came to the march with the intent to fuck shit up. A polite plea from the bandstand would have had about as much effect as pleading with a cat not to stalk birds. Why do I believe this? The rocks with the necessary mass needed to smash a plate glass window are not readily available downtown and hence had to be imported.
Here's a concret solution. At any rally the Masked Wonders attend, assign three of four true activists to escort them to monitor their behavior. At the first rock thrown, mace the Mofo who throws it. Harsh? Yes. Effective? Hell Yes!
I would love to catch one of
Submitted by Just another voice on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 6:37pm.I don't think anyone should ever wear a mask to a rally or a protest. It sends the completely wrong message. Sort of like during the Evergreen incident, most of the folks were not wearing masks, but the ones that had the spray cans and rocks were all prepared with bandannas around their faces.
But I am Just Another Voice
You don't know what would happen.
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 11:01pm.You gonna direct that same violence toward our defence?
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 11:46pm.I'm pretty sure that playing the role of "unsworn cop" is not going to win you any friends in most of the activist community, "true" or otherwise. And if you act like one in front of me, I'll catalog you just like I catalog all the other cops. For many years to come. Please reconsider.
I consider assault directed at someone to be a far worse crime than violence directed at persons unknown, when the primary target was property. If you're making yet more "sides" (or intensifying old ones) you're not progressive or anti-imperialist.
Absolutely let anyone
Submitted by ctqwn on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 3:46pm.Absolutely let anyone wearing a mask know that the event is only for people who aren't afraid to show their faces. I'd tell them that if they want to make a statement anonymously, then they should go home and get on the internet, and that this event is for those who want to put a face w/ their message. If the Women in Black can stand for what they believe w/o masks, then the black bloc can, too.
As I said earlier on another thread, those who organize a protest should be planning for problems, whether it's how the police might react, or counter protesters, or "bad seeds" who want to co-opt the message from within. History has shown us what can happen, and Boy Scouts aren't the only ones who need to be prepared.
crosslink
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 11:36pm.http://www.olyblog.net/may-day-editorial-comment#comment-59354
Let's get some perspective here!
Submitted by Taryn G on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 2:40am.In the interest of trying to keep a community undivided over rock throwing and defacing of buildings with symbolism I urge folks to remember the passion that some folks have heaving up inside themselves.
When you are just starting out you may be fooled into thinking that some acts of violence will work but as you go along you begin to see it really is "big problem" on a "grand scale" run by the same class over and over again. We must break through with a meaningful solidarity. Once we have their attention then we will need great orators to communicate the "great agenda" and the "solutions". We have to get stronger in this.
I would much rather see folks targeting the people who are the string pullers of all the puppets in this imperial state of humanity we live in rather than throwing rocks at windows (even though Bank of America has some serious problems). Put some of that passion to work finding out who these folks are and make their lives difficult until they begin to give the "people" of the world what is their fair share.
We must have an agenda to work not just reactions to a squeezing economic boa constricter around all of our necks. There is plenty for all of us. 'They' like to try to divide us along all kinds of lines of diversity but we all know the truth...we are all one here on the blue planet with the same birthright "to be". However, we do need our fair share! We must regulate energy industries, banking systems, and begin to build infrastructure of programs on a global scale that serve to educate, sustain and raise up the human family. We need to demand right now a retooling of car industry to hydrogen or electric (say no to bio fuels!)...mandate it! Oil companies should be forced to pay higher taxes...these taxes should be used as subsidies to the new innovative companies who will provide the "new" model of transportation. We could also use this money to create work programs that work with local energy companies to help homeowners convert to solar & wind energy producing setups to their properties. Next we could begin community hydrophonic gardens in every city in the U.S.A. or for that matter the world.
Slowly but surely we can gain our independence together from the elitist corporate feudalist imperialists that have hi-jacked all the countries in the world.
It CAN BE DONE!
I'm very proud of Olympians even when sometimes there is a few rif raff that aren't completely non-violent (hey not everyone is at the same level of "understanding" at the same time).
Solidarity, Taryn G.
In the mean time, here are some things for you to cheer about
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 10:08am.Just to hold you over...
Eventually
Submitted by Norm on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 10:38am.