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Submitted by Paul on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 9:53am.
Could it be that some things are missing from the discussion about the protests at the Port of Olympia marine terminal? I do not support the war. I do not support the use of the Port for military operations. I also do not support rock-throwing or violence of any kind by any one. However, if one steps back, one might come to the conclusion that ultimately, this is a situation created by the Port, not the City of Olympia, and by people who promote "non-violence" by instigating violent exchanges through their own actions. For example, breaking out windows downtown is not "non-violence", nor is throwing rocks at police cars. Behavior has consequences. I have been wondering over the past few days about how many of the protestors are registered to vote in Thurston County, and if registered, how many voted in the Port Commission race last week. I wonder if the majority of them know anything of the outcome of the election or that there even was a recent election. I also wonder how many of them have attempted to express outrage at the action by the Port in a constructive way. I also would like to know how much recruiting of additional protesters was done with out-of-state organizations, who, while they may have a stake in ending this war, have no stake in our community. I don't know how the decision was made to allow the military off-loading to occur here. If the Port did it without public discussion, then the Port needs to be held accountable for that. The City of Olympia did not have a hand in approving this, and given the incredibly bad relations between the City and the Port, I would be surprised if the possibility of the military shipments was even discussed before the decision was made by the Port. I also wonder why the Port did not anticipate this reaction. That seems short-sighted. Perhaps, had some outreach been done, these protests could have taken place in a respectful manner, rather than erupting into the destructiveness we have seen over the past few days. The other question that must be asked, again of the Port, is what, exactly, is it willing to accept here in order to accommodate a money-losing operation? I would be interested to know how much the Port is being paid to accept these shipments, how much it spent on its "private security firm". How much has the City been forced to spend on police overtime, pepper spray, staff time now and in the months to come as the so called Angry Peace-Mob unleashes its misdirected wrath on the City of Olympia while the Olympia Port Commission, the real culprit in these shipments, seems to smirk and get away with its secretive dereliction of duty? I truly love our little town of Olympia. I love the energy and generosity of this community. I do not like to see us embroiled in the kind of stuff that detracts from truly important and huge local issues such as homelessness, and affordable housing and health care and child care for all who live here. Bob VanSchoorl Bill McGregor Paul Telford Ed Galligan "The Port Commission welcomes your comments concerning current meeting agenda items. We would appreciate your comments two business days prior to the scheduled meeting."
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Excellent point about
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 10:42am.non-issue during the election?
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 10:56am.I raised this point around the filing period, but as I remember it, using the port for military shipments was not an issue with the three candidates challenging sitting port commissioners.
The one candidate who I was almost sure mentioned it, Suzanne Nott, doesn't have a word on the issue on her website.
Here's a quote from an interview with Van Schoorl, Nott and Barner:
Nott lost in a three way primary, but the eventual winner supported military shipments.
Well put Paul.
Submitted by Myshkin1984 on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 12:14pm.History
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 5:21pm.The "outside agitator" theme is cute - especially since the 833rd Transportation Battalion is based in Seattle, its Marine Terminal Coordinator lives in Ruston, and the vehicles themselves just came from the ultimate in outside agitation, a pre-emptive war and occupation of another country on another continent. They're being shipped through our Port so that they can go to Pierce County (Ft Lewis) and most of the soldiers driving them come from some other state.
But I suppose you have to solve the cognitive dissonance somehow, and labeling the victims of the violence "outsider" is a classic way to do that. Trouble is, none of us is an outsider. We're all on this little liferaft of rock by ourselves, with each other. And there is precious little space for a shooting match if we want to still be around in a hundred years.
Yeah
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 5:29pm.Accepting that endorsement
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 5:31pm.Accepting that endorsement would amount to political suicide!
Oh you're probably right about that. Seems futile
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 5:45pm.Brilliant
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 5:51pm.Agreed
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:00pm.No, but the next 4 years would
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:17pm.Of course not.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:19pm.Rob,
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:20pm.a snake?
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:27pm.He's conservative compared
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 8:01pm.Hell, I'm a conservative
Submitted by Anonymously Larry on Fri, 11/16/2007 - 7:22am.Compared to you and Gug
Just Ask
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:28pm.In fact, no, it wasn't an attempt to run the score up to 70. I ask exactly for the reason Guglielmo suggested - empowerment. Thanks for asking, though.
You sound positive about your answer with, "Of course not" but I'm not so sure. We can only theorize. Pardon me for saying something interesting and provoking some thought. Back to my hole.
Yeah, you stay in your hole!
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 8:05pm.I'm Poking My Hands Out
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 8:08pm.To say, in all honesty, the results of the election from a numbers perspective didn't cross my mind when posting. I also want to say I meant no ill response.
You have to just let me be bitter for a while.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 8:17pm.Oh, I don't need a reason to
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 6:31pm.