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Submitted by enpen on Sat, 08/26/2006 - 9:35pm.
My family is moving to Olympia from Minneapolis.  On Thursday, August 31st, myself and a friend are driving a 15' Budget from Minneapolis.  My partner and our 9 mo. daughter I pick up at Sea-Tac on Wednesday, September 6th.  We're looking to become Olys.  I'm a 29 year old writer, my partner, ageless, is a soon to be washington bar student and our daughter is presently undecided.

I just wanted to introduce ourselves.  I've been reading your blog for several months now, voyeuristically participating in your community.  We're excited to get there.
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Coming to Olympia

I am also of Minneapolis origin, Jason.

Have a safe trip.

[edit:] When I drove out here 4 years ago, I lost a campagnolo ten-speed rear bicycle wheel somewhere in Montana.

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Happy trails!

Feel free to give us some travelogue on your journey to the left coast.
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Olys?

Speaking of which, what do we call ourselves. Olys harkens back to... beer.

I say we're Olympians of the higest caliber. Olympians for short
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Olympians

According to this source, we are Olympians.

I had no clue about this til I read it. Though most everyone else I tell informs me that of course we are.
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I didn't know there was

I didn't know there was anything other than Olympians.

I kind of like Olys, though.

But yeah, way too much of a reminder of the beer.

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What route are you taking?

What route are you taking? If I-90, be sure to have a full tank before you head west from Spokane. I've driven those gas guzzling rental rigs across the state a couple times.
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excellent advice

94 to 90 to 5.  Thank you for the experience. 
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I took the same route, (that

I took the same route, (that wheel fell off on 94 in MT) with a detour through Mt. Rainier National Park. (I wasn't in a 15' moving truck.)
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I lived in St. Paul for four

I lived in St. Paul for four years. It seems like an easy transplant for many folks (and the weather certainly doesn't explain that!). If you do take I-90, good stops are as follows:
-the Lone Steer (coffee and breakfast) in Steele, ND
-the Jokers Wild (chocolate milkshakes and perfect eggs) in (Butte? Missoula?) MT
-D&M coffee (used to be the Windy City Chat n' Curl, on 3rd and Pine, wonderful coffee, paninis) in Ellensburg, WA
Also, if you happen through Ellensburg on Saturday morning (that would take some fast driving!), you're welcome to join my husband and I at my mom's annual Labor Day brunch. There's a parade that morning, and her house is right along the parade route. There'll be nearly 50 people there, so you can blend right in! Let me know if you're interested, and I'll give you directions.
Also-also, if you need anything when you get to Olympia, just ask. We OlyBloggers know everything.
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The Olympian route

You're right, that would be a good pace...and I don't think we're going to push quite that hard, but mighty MidWest of you to offer, thank you.

As far as the recommendations go, I like this concept alot.  Does anybody else have recommended stops for an Olymove from Minneapolis?  And why there?
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welcoming committee

Jason,

I'm glad to see that you've found the OlyBlog.  I still owe you a beer for your nice letter about my podcast.  Be sure to stock up on CBT episodes by making CDs before you hit the road.   There's a lot of "country music" only stretches between here and there  if you only have a radio.

Cosmo G Spacely,  the Unabonger

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Heh, I love that stretch,

Heh, I love that stretch, one of the biggest things I miss about E. Washington is only hitting 1 or 2 hip hop stations while flipping through the stations. If you stop in spokane I recommend stopping at the "white elephant" it's a neat sportsman store crossed with weird, older toys. Good times
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just a minor correction

if it's on the radio, unless it's independant radio, it's rap, not hip-hop. There's a difference.
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I consider myself pretty up

I consider myself pretty up on this kind of stuff...

But what's the difference? I had an assumption, but after reading your response (and maybe after you answer with a difference I'll discover I was reading it wrong) I don't think it's even in the ballpark.

Since we're on the subject, I've actually come to respect 2Pac's music. It gave you a lot more to think and talk about than Eminem or even 50 Cent. It's just ridiculous what is coming out of the genre today when it started out much more political.

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All the same in my book.

All the same in my book.
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I could say that all new

I could say that all new country or all classical are the same, but since I haven't listened to very much of either of them, I wouldn't, because I wouldn't know what I was talking about.
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Yes, you could. I was simply

Yes, you could. I was simply stating my opinion, it's too bad you don't like it. We all are allowed to have our own opinions, at least the last time I checked.
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It wasn't my intention to

It wasn't my intention to make you feel like your opinion wasn't valid. I sometimes get a little worked up when people attack "rap" music as being "all the same". It is nuanced by the social situation of listeners. You have a different relationship with hip-hop than I do. I just got a judgemental vibe from your original post, and responded to it. I hope that my brief post on the difference between hip-hop and rap helped you understand where I'm coming from.
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But it's all so very

But it's all so very different, Norm.

For instance, there's this in 2Pac's "Changes":

Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right, 'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight

Now, when I read/hear this line, I think about how both races (and, in my opinion, separate classes) are participating in the same activities.

Does the upper-class do a better job of keeping their faults behind closed doors? Absolutely. But within Suburbia there is a lot going on that is no more "moral" than what they point their finger at in the inner-city.

Of course, the song isn't just addressing the difference between separate classes (and, as some would interpret, putting "blame" on the upper-class).

bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you, You gotta operate the easy way, "I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way, sellin' crack to the kid. " I gotta get paid," Well hey, well that's the way it is

I think this is a clear statement that within urban America there are more than a few people who would rather proceed down the "easy way" and continue to participate in the same cycle that has plagued the inner-city in recent decades.

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the difference

now, this admittedly is my opinion, but I stand strongly by it.

I base my opinion on 28 years of life, most of which was spent listening to hip-hop music. I've also done a lot of reading and research into hip-hop culture (including dance and graffiti), it's origins, politics, and evolution.

To put it simply, rap is what I call the pop-culture Constantinian "money, cash, hoes" music that you can hear on MTV and pop radio. Hip-hop music either delivers a message of some kind, or is fun dance and party music. It is sometimes violent, but not in a glorifying way, in a gritty and real way that paints a picture of what life, for some, is like. Hip-hop music is often political, it came out of areas of the world abandoned by politicians and has become one of the only ways to shine light on those areas.

Eminem and 50 Cent=Rap
Talib Kweli and Mos Def=Hip-Hop

word is bond. i'm out.

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I thought we already covered

I thought we already covered this on OlyBlog.
hoe=garden tool
ho=short for 'whore'
Although 'hos' looks funny, it is in fact the correct pluralization of 'ho'. If you don't like, cut back to one and you won't have to deal with the plural. One should be enough, anyway.
Also, watch out for short version of pantyhose; for example, "What am I gonna do with a pair of nude hose?" is a much different statement from "What am I gonna do with a pair of nude hos?" One denotes a color of stockings, one the state of deshabille of your paid companions.
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Meta...

Thank you for being on top of this and keeping things straight. We all know how I feel about Hoes and Hos. :)
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Hmmm, what would I do with a

Hmmm, what would I do with a pair of nude ho's?
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I never would've thought...

...talk of a move could lead to such lively conversation.  As far as the conversation regarding tastes, rap, hip-hop, the universe and everything, here's my buffalo nickle:  nothing is for everyone.
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True story

Honest to God, true story.

I was in the check out line at a grocery store. A woman approached the clerk and asked him "How much for that hoe over there?". She pointed over to the new display of some garden implements, including hoes.

The clerk had momentarily forgotten about these new items, he heard her question as "How much for that 'ho over there?". He was confused, he stammered, he blushed, he then figured things out and told her the price. She went on her way, he was left with me and my groceries to check out. I was semi-oblivious.

He -then- decided he needed to explain to me what had just happened. But mid way through the story he realized maybe he really didn't need to be telling a customer this, and he got even redder. I reassured him that I understood and that it was funny.
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welcome

I have a son who is 9 1/2 months. A couple of my friends who are parents and I are starting to meet at Bigelow Park every Tuesday afternoon at 3pm. You're welcome to join us.
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Thank you

I believe we'll have to try to make that.  That's a really kind offer.  And just to put other parents at ease, our daughter only bites our noses, thus far.
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