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Submitted by Sarah on Mon, 07/07/2008 - 10:25am.

Ken weighs in with his thoughts on plans to build a parking garage downtown: read them here.

In the 1980’s the City of Spokane built a downtown parking garage in a public-private partnership. Lack of use caused the facility to fail and Spokane taxpayers spent millions to bail out the owners.
That’s going to happen in Olympia, if the city goes through with its plans for a parking garage.
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If the deal was

build a garage AND get rid of some surface parking lots, then I'd be all for a parking garage. Still, I don't know who can't find parking in downtown Olympia today...especially if the town is the deadzone so many describe. Instead of speculating, the city should invest in a market survey to find out who is having problems parking and why; if a garage would make a difference; and, if so, what would be the economic impact.
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I wonder

I wonder also if the change in traffic patterns is being taken into consideration when planning a parking garage, say at Mills & Mills. I'd think that the increase (if garage is used) in concentrated traffic in and out of there would be intense.
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Hmm!

I agree that visitors will probably not use the parking garage at all, and won't see it as an incentive to drive downtown. At this point anyway we should be trying to skirt people away from driving in general. With that being said, I think the parking garage would be used, but not by visitors. The 5 story parking garage in Bellingham is filled every day to the brim with permit parking for people who work or live downtown. I don't even think you can use it if you're just visiting. The idea was to keep the employees and residents off the streets.

Honestly I have never had a problem parking downtown when I drive. I always find a space on the first or second loop around. I could see how a garage could benefit employees and store owners, but why don't we start thinking outside of the car+downtown=business. Spending money on transit infrastructure projects that only cater to single-occupancy commuters just annoys me.

What if that money was spent on transit passes to employees that work downtown? Or on creating a DASH for the east-west city corridor? Things that will beneift the community as a whole-- including those that don't want to drive.

But I am Just Another Voice

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Great ideas

DASH for east-west city corridor would be fantastic. We could make it real easy for people to hop on the bus and get to and from where they're going.
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parking garage

No to parking garage!!! Yes to reducing the number of lanes on the roadways, raising gas and automotive licensing taxes (sliding scale - progressive taxation mind you), and intensively promoting bicycling. Parking garage is not the answer to economic woes - investing in a truly sustainable alternative is the answer!!!




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I still like

Pedestrian-only core.

Park-and-ride satellite areas.

Streetcars. 

 

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Yea, yea, anti-car and stuff man

Know what? A lot of us poor people are stuck driving for a whole bunch of reasons. Bus routes stop running too soon or don't go to job sites. Did you know there is no service to Mottman industrial park? Buses either get us to a site and hour early or five minutes late. Ever tried lugging home groceries for four on an over-crowded bus?

Bikes are cool if your healthy enough to ride one during the five months a year the weather co-operates.

Bert, just how would a progressive gas tax work? Show a IRS return at the pump? Keep receipts and use them as a deduction when filing? That could address Federal gas taxes but such proposals are irrelevent when it comes to Washington State gas and car taxes because Washington state does not base taxation on income.

I doubt a parking garage, an issue on which I'm still undecided, would do much more than bankrupt the PBIA w/out taxes from the general fund, but if it would be a piece of making downtown much more pedestrian friendly then it might be a good investment. Either way cars will be involved. 

I guess what's wadding my unmentionalbles this morning is the young, healthy and decidedly non-blue collar bias toward the use of cars. I support everyone doing everything to minimize their use of cars (more open roads for me :) ) but what I've read so far on transportation are not pratical now or in the near term future for most Olympians. One thing I love about Olyblog are people questioning assumptions and visualizing better futures. What seems to be lacking are concrete proposals to reach those progressive goals. 

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car-share & word-of-mouth

Car-Share:

Split a Prius and then pay for the plug-in up-grade...

...from just word of mouth, I have had 3 strangers call & introduce themselves and wanna get a car-share going.

My target is 10 folks at $5K (or more, with less=)

So, unless we chat and envision other ways, then we go no where-

...and as for "blue-collar", etc...

...not really into those sterotypes (we are all just folks here).

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