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Submitted by Mike on Mon, 11/19/2007 - 8:30am.

Is this Criminal Assault?

Questions: Why are these people being pepper-sprayed?

Were these peopled lined up against the chain link fence by the police with the intent of pepper-spraying these people once they were in control in front of the fence?

Who spread the plastic on the ground near the fence and for what reason?

Is there a good reason to pepper-spray people who appear to be clearly under police control?

Are the police going down the line pepper-spraying each of the people lined up against the fence?

How many of these people who may have been detained, lined up against the chain link fence and pepper-sprayed were arrested?

Is there a date and time for this particular incident and a police report regarding the use of force (pepper-spray is part of the force continuum) against these individuals?

Unless the Police Department or the City now step forward and initiate an open, independent investigation regarding the allegations of police misconduct over the past two weeks, the investigation needs to take place in the media. Are we the media?

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I'm pretty sure the police

did not "line them up." I think they lined themsleves up to block the gate. But since I wasn't there when the line formed, I can't really say. You?
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I can't spot a gate in the

I can't spot a gate in the picture and I wasn't there, so I am not sure how the folks came to be standing against the fence and being pepper-sprayed.  I was hoping someone who was there or can identify the exact time and location would be able to give more detail and context to a picture that looks like police misconduct to me.

I had considered the possibility that the demonstrators had brought the plastic tarp and were using it overhead to stay a little drier, but that was simply a thought I had about it.   

 

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I have some

USGI chemical decontamination wipes for sale cheap!  Should have gone down to the protests and sold them at scalper's prices...

 

I don't think there is any premeditation here.  It's called escalation of force...  it starts out nice, and gets worse from there.

 Try investing in good grade chemical protection that cannot be easily ripped off a person's body.

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I'm pretty sure...

...I don't want my taxes spent this way.
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The demonstrators lined

The demonstrators lined themselves up. The plastic was put down because the ground was wet and they wanted to sit. Regardless, this photo, to me, shows inappropriate use of force. This was not crowd control in my opinion, this was punitive.
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And could have completely been avoided

had the demonstrators realized that their point was made, and moved aside.
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And could have been completely avoided

had the cops just arrested the protesters peacefully. (we're gonna real far in this conversation!)
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I know

it's almost become amusing at this point.
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I have to disagree, Norm

I think the protesters would have made a very different point if they moved willingly when the police told them to.

Peace became pizza. -- Guglielmo

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How so?

Nobody has explained this to me.
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It shows how strongly they're resisting

It makes a statement about their commitment to resisting the war, and to resisting militarization of our port. They were willing to break the law peacefully (let's set aside for now the people who were NOT peaceful -- they were the minority), to risk bodily injury and to subject themselves to arrest and detainment to make a point about how strongly they object to the illegal occupation of Iraq. Furthermore, their point reaches more people when it's strongly made. Lastly, this kind of courage inspires people. I was really moved by the courage of the people who put their bodies in front of a truck carrying military vehicles, the courage of people who stood their ground in the face of police who were willing to hurt them physically, and who had the courage and commitment to be arrested for making a point about their commitment to ending an illegal war.

Peace became pizza. -- Guglielmo

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Thank you for your answer

That had not actually been explained to me until now. At least from the circle I run in, I have not heard anyone, outside of olyblog, use the word commitment when describing the protests. In fact I haven't heard many positive remarks regarding the protests, and I know very few people who support Bush or the current fighting in Iraq. I'm glad that this worked for some folks, but for me, I thought the protesters were commited after the first round of pepper spray, after that I just thought they were masochistic.
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See this:

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where is this particular location?

It does suggest purely punitive police action, not crowd control, not control of criminal activity.  I want the Olympia Police Department to live up to their general order and explain what is going on in this picture and account for it if accountability is called for and means anything. 
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If I hear the "just do what the police say" line one more time..

I'm going to puke.

I doubt seriously that any of the good old boys in Mississippi weren't telling those folks to move away from the lunch counter.

"Can you imagine those negroes???  After I let them come into my home on Christmas, and then they do something like that"

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My first wife's grandfather

was considered a very enlightened and fair man back in rural Texas about 50 miles from Houston and many family members were very proud of the fact that he would treat negroes at the backdoor very kindly even if he had thrown the very same negro off the front porch a few minutes earlier for violating all of the community standards by walking right up on the front porch and knocking on the door instead of walking around the house and knocking on the back door as any reasonable negro in town knew to do. 

He was an enlightened and kindly man.  He had no patience or business with the rougher crowd that could find a justification for lynching unreasonable negroes. He had principles.  Too bad he did not live long enough to come to regret throwing a person off the front porch because of the color of their skin.  He was capable of that kind of understanding.  He died in the 1960s as best I can recall and calculate.  I didn't marry his granddaughter until the early 70's so his kindly ways are all second hand stories to me.  I grew up 100 miles to the west, fewer old south sentiments about race 100 miles to the west, plus my father was a famous negro-lover in my home town.  Probably the only white guy in town who belonged to the NAACP so my family had no stories about the front and back door etiquette.      

I think the overlap between the local police force and the KKK was much higher than the overlap between the local police force and NAACP membership.

 

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Real good...

Comparing what when on down at our port to the heroes who sat at the lunch counter...Maybe I can see the similarity, nice peaceful little town that is welcoming to most every point of view. Do a little protesting, maybe get pepper sprayed and then go have coffee an apple crisp. Compare that to the south in the 50's and 60's, almost the same, the weather here is a bit cooler though.
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Words of Frederick Douglas

We should remember the words of a real American. In 1857 Frederick Douglass said "The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims, have been born of earnest struggle. The conflict has been exciting, agitating, all-absorbing, and for the time being, putting all other tumults to silence. It must do this or it does nothing. If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. These words are just as true today as when first spoken.
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I love that quotation

thanks for posting it.
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