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Submitted by Mike on Sat, 01/05/2008 - 4:55pm.
I am going to retract on this post. I have been able to reach one of the journalists who published the original posts in major newspaper and they have said their concerns were long ago settled on this question. It's interesting that none of the journalists who posted these relatively explosive stories subsequently published a story retracting. The single journalist I was able to reach on it, said he thought he had essentially retracted in some side notes, but that is really pretty weak from a journalistic ethics pov. And, so today, if you google this story, you can still find lots of references to the original story and no retractions pop up. I think it's important when a story is wrong, that the paper print a no-nonsense retraction. I hereby retract. I think the story regarding the put options on the WTC attacks is not factual.
Original post below:
I believe there is no question that some folks made bets (put and call options) based on foreknowledge of the attacks planned against the World Trade Centers on September 11th. If an investigator wanted to know all about the crime, wouldn't it make sense to track down the individuals who made the bets, find out how they came to have foreknowledge, and correlate the results of the investigation of the profits with all the other evidence that could be gathered regarding the collapse of the WTC buildings (3 of them). CBS News reported on the put options on September 19, 2001. Bloomberg News and the London Times were carrying the same story about the same time. There doesn't seem to be much question that folks placed bets based on inside knowledge about the attacks. A lot of folks spent some time trying to argue that the put options were not that unusual, that this was simply hysteria of some sort. But if you win on a bet in the stock market, would you come get your money? The SF Chronicle reports on September 29, 2001 that somebody was leaving 2.5 million USD on the table rather than stepping up to pick up their profit and answer any questions regarding their bets. I don't want to go into all of the various conspiracy theories regarding September 11th. There are too many of them and lots of them are pretty far-fetched. But I do think that certain basic investigation processes could and should be followed to bring criminals to justice. And one investigative process that did not seem to be completed was to follow this money trail and identify the parties involved. If you want to comment, please keep the discussion down to the money trail on the put/call options.
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Puts and calls happen
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 01/07/2008 - 1:01pm.My take on that based on the 2.5 million reported to
Submitted by Mike on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 11:47am.unclaimed. I retract once it becomes clear the 2.5 was claimed and that no one is hiding and not picking up their profits.
Not there yet, but seem to be headed that way.
It appears the 911 Commission examined this issue
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 01/07/2008 - 5:43pm.Trying to track down the folks who wrote the story at SF Chron
Submitted by Mike on Mon, 01/07/2008 - 8:09pm.These two reporters, Christian Berthelsen, Scott Winokur, Chronicle Staff Writers, wrote the following on the 29th:
I don't find anywhere that the reporters ever retracted or clarified their story. Will let you know if I hear back from the reporters.
One article quoting one source
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 01/07/2008 - 11:15pm.Journalism
Submitted by Mike on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 8:02am.The SF Chronicle article is pretty pointed. Good journalistic ethics should require a followup. It may be that it is not possible to break through the confidentiality of the financial transactions in any legal way. I am continuing to try to reach the journalists for evidence of a retraction, explanation or additional stories on the unclaimed funds. If the trading was innocuous, it becomes hard to explain why the trader did not claim their profit.
Page 172 of the 911 Commission Report has a couple of sentences indicating there was exhaustive investigation of the trades and the trades were found to be innocuous. Footnote 130 regarding this finding can be found on page 499.
The footnote cited an example of an institutional trader that purchased large blocks of put options, but I could find no details in the report regarding their investigation other than this single footnote that says they expended considerable effort investigating the put option story.
Michael C. Ruppert has reported that the put options that produced the unclaimed 2.5 million dollar profit were placed by the firm that Buzzy Krongard (#3 at the CIA) was formerly headed by "Buzzy" Krongard. Buzzy is brother to Cookie Krongard, the inspector general accused of impeding investigations into the money trail in Iraq.
This is not an easy story to untangle. I think the Woodward and Bernstein habit of following the money makes sense.
Did get one response already
Submitted by Mike on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 11:13am.Here is the exchange with Howard Simons:
I had a number of notes in the weeks and months following 9/11 asking what the resolution was, and I responded it was under federal investigation. The issue was attracting various fringe groups, and I didn't want to get involved much further. I think I may have posted some sort of "Columnist Conversation" note once the 9/11 Commission reported, but that's about it.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:13 am
Subject: Re: September 11 put options
Thanks for the quick response. It's interesting that it's easy to find the online articles raising the issue, but not easy to find the followups noting resolution of the questions raised.
Thanks again,
Mike
Howard Simons wrote:
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 9:47 pm
Subject: September 11 put options
You published an article on September 25 2001 about the put options on airlines and others. The 9/11 Commission indicates on page 516 of its 585 page report that all of the put options trading turned out to be innocuous. Have you accepted the Commission's findings that the trades were innocuous?
Cool...
Submitted by Guglielmo on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 11:29am.