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Submitted by JT on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 1:46pm.

I didn't know if the bloggers here were aware that OPD has a citizen ride along program. You can come out and ride with an officer for a period of time, usually not longer than 4 hours, and get a sense for the job. You also get to know the people of the department.

Below is from the policy manual.

 

5.1.7 Liaison with the community
The Department encourages citizen participation in its activities. To that end, the Department sponsors numerous volunteer programs and a program that allows citizens to ride along with working officers to better understand community safety issues and the roles the Department and citizens play in maintaining a safe, secure and livable community.
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beautiful

Thank you for posting this JT.

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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Couple questions

If I wanted to ride along, could I choose the officer I wanted to ride with?  Also, I'd want to know that there would be no chance of being asked to participate in LE activities in any way... just there to watch and to chat with the officer between calls. 

This does sound intriguing. 

The Canaanite's Call

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Do you think make you be a cop during the ride along?

Of course you wouldn't take part in any LE activities, only highly trained professionals are allowed to do that.

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Also, I'd want to know that

Also, I'd want to know that there would be no chance of being asked to participate in LE activities in any way

You would never be asked to participate unless the officer either explicitly asked or you clearly saw the situation dictate.

Then you'd have to make your own decision, because it's nothing you're "required" to do.

In fact, 99.999999999% of the time they want you to stay out of the way and be quiet when they're handling a call.

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What Is

LE?

 

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

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Law Enforcement

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Oh!

Duh me huh?!

 

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
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No, not "duh, you."

It's just bad writing!!
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Phil,

you or Meta can come ride with me anytime. And you don't have to worry about any of your concerns.

No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits.  Climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world ever.Christine Stewart (the real basis for the AGW scare)

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Do We Schedule Rides With Officers

because I'd love to ride with JT! 

 

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

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I did a ride-a-long with a

I did a ride-a-long with a buddy of mine several years ago when I was testing at various departments. I had a great time and it was very good learning experience.
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Can someone please get this

Can someone please get this man a SPARKLE Award?

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About fifteen years ago I

About fifteen years ago I got to ride along with the Raymond PD. Even though it was a Friday Night all we did was pull over people for having a headlight out. We pulled over and aimed the radar gun for awhile; Officer Wilson explained that he doesn't bother pulling over speeders unless they're going 15 over since it would just get dwindled down in court.

There was a split-second scary moment when we pulled over a headlight and the driver jumped out and ran back towards us. It turned out to be nothing, he asked if he was pulled over for the headlight and explained that he had just been pulled over. Common Sense says he should have just waited for the Officer to approach.

I was told that if he was in a situation that warranted chasing I'd be dropped off and someone else would come get me, though that didn't happen.

You say that a good cause will even sanctify war! I tell you, it is the good war that sanctifies every cause!
Friedrich Nietzsche

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Off Wilson, as in "Bill" Wilson?

nt
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That was his name - I forgot

That was his name - I forgot you're from that neck of the woods.

1:22AM (Dispatch reads back this time to tape) "When Olympia comes in, let 'em know we need helmets, they're starting to throw stuff."

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Yup, he was interim Chief for awhile. Funny guy

nt
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In my experience

I didn't request a specific officer, although I was known to some and picked up because of that. You will not be asked to write tickets, put on handcuffs, put on a uniform (every place I've ridden with has asked that you were semi-professional attire, no anarchist t-shirts :p ) nothing like that. If you walk into this saying that you are curious, but you are not looking to be a cop, they will treat you like a curious citizen. If you go in saying you want to bust the bad guys, they will probably ask you to do little things ( I can go into more detail of my stories, but I won't here ) here and there just to involve you. If it looks like things are going to get hairy, they drop you off somewhere and either come back for you, or arrange for another car to pick you up. It is a TON of fun!
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Great idea, JT!

Part of the solution, not part of the problem.
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OPD Community Relations

This seems like it would be a great way for community members to learn about law enforcement and how OPD works. I think it might be a little tense if I wanted to go for a ride, considering the lingering tensions surrounding the port protests of last November.

I did a ride along once, it was over 10 years ago now, in Madison Wisconsin. I had to do it because I had gotten into trouble for something, probably being drunk or smoking marijuana - I don't remember exactly what I did (maybe it will come to me though.)

Anyway, I had to ride with an officer for a few hours, probably about 3 hours as I recall. I remember we went to bust some people who had broken into the stadium. I think they were basically just hustled out and given a warning. It was a good experience though and I definitely gained some respect for the job that police officers do as a result of it.

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I think it would go ok

I mean, if you got in the car and asked, "So why did you jerks gives us the beat-down during the port protests?" then I could see it not going well. I think our local police have a pretty high level of professionalism.

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You're probably right

Most of the OPD officers do seem to have a high level of professionalism. However there might be one or who that I wouldn't be comfortable doing a ride along with!
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I could understand that

It might be an adventure though :) I wouldn't let it hold you back. If an officer saw you on the roster and had an issue with it, I'm sure they would probably find someone else that has a better attitude about it. One of the deputies I met at TCSO was an Evergreen alum, she was incredibly nice too....and cute but that's beside the point right?

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I can't think of any I would be uncomfortable with...

 I even had a pretty decent conversation with O'Neill one day when I saw him out and about.  He is still high on my poopy list, but I have a better understanding of who he is, and why he did what he did.  Still doesn't change things....

Of course it is always easier to have a conversation with a person face to face when no official duties or misunderstandings are in the way.  It does speak for his professionalism though, which I have found to be a common traight amongst the OPD.  

 

"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown

 

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You Have A

"poopy list"?  ROFL!

 

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

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I did a ride along with a

I did a ride along with a police officer in Rochester, MN a few years ago as a history class assignment and enjoyed it very much. I found out that the officer I rode with was someone that I could admire and appreciate and I also found out that there truly can be biases that I would consider detrimental to a community within a police force as well as somewhat of a black-and-white perspective of things. She was very open to conversation about what I'd learned about refugees from various parts of the world, and who she felt contributed to many of the problems she saw while on patrol, and we each came away with a better understanding of the community and each other. She even expressed an interest in taking the same world history courses I had so that she would better understand the people that she found herself called to interact with so often.


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I think it would be more fun

 and instructive to "ride along" with the OPD's range master or weapon's instructor!  :-)  Barring that I think it is great the the OPD has a ride along program.  If I didn't have some ongoing issues with OPD, I may be intererested, but probably better for both parties to avoid this for the moment...  which is a shame, it would certaintly be an educational experience...

 

"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown

 

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Did it twice...

Did this with the Carbondale Police Department, and was checked for prior criminal involvement before I was allowed to do it. First time was boring - the guy was an idiot, and the night was slow. Second time was worse, though. The department had five officers on evening shift, and they found a guy they wanted at a certain housing development "on the wrong side of the tracks." They came at this guy from four separate directions, driving THROUGH THE YARDS OF THE HOUSING PROJECT. Through a sidewalk / grassy area. And the guy still got away. While the adrenaline-addicts were all out chasing and losing, I was there in a well lit police car with a wide open door, for 20 minutes while curious black people looked at me and wondered if I was a newly minted cop.

I knew that the department was a small-town racist group of thugs, but the invectives I heard upon my "ride"s return was enough to turn even my stomach. I almost got out of his car, because my Daddy always taught me "Son, don't argue with a woman who is drunk or a man who is armed." But I kept my trap shut and he got the picture that I wasn't real happy with this sheit.

I decided it was a lot easier to just use the reporter's skills to learn what I needed to know.

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Norm has done a pretty good job explaining

how things work.

Yes you can request a specific officer, or you can go with whomever gets picked at the briefing.

Many officers are not real keen with riders for a number of reasons. One, their system is messed up as the passenger seat usually is where they keep much of their gear. Now that is moved to the trunk. Also the social issue of having stranger in the seat next them, dealing with the normal social dynamics and then on top of that the officer has additional responsibilities to care for this person. Also a rider is a bit of a distraction. But usually after about 30 minutes things get more comfortable, and both officer and citizen get something out of the encounter.

Some of my co-workers that are not thrilled with riders have given me some heat over the this post, but I think good can come from this form of contact with the citizens we police.

Depending on what you might want to get from the contact might determine when you ride. If you want to see more action, the hours of 9pm to about 3am are your best choice. If you want to have time to have more conversation with an officer and still see some police work, then 7am to 7pm would be better.

JPO, you can come out and ride anytime. I get the sense you're a thrillseeker though. So the 9pm-3am would likely be more entertaining for you. We bid our shifts by seniority, and being an old fart on the dept I get to pick my shift, usually days, 6:20am-5:00pm. If you do come out and ride with me, we can swap motorcycle stories too. ;-)

There is an application process that you complete, and like Drew mentions, your criminal history will be checked. So if you have active warrants, you may not want to apply. Also, no felony convictions are allowed either.

If anyone has questions and doesn't want to ask them here, you can PM me and I will try to answer them.

No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits.  Climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world ever.Christine Stewart (the real basis for the AGW scare)

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JT

JPO, you can come out and ride anytime. I get the sense you're a thrillseeker though. So the 9pm-3am would likely be more entertaining for you. We bid our shifts by seniority, and being an old fart on the dept I get to pick my shift, usually days, 6:20am-5:00pm. If you do come out and ride with me, we can swap motorcycle stories too. ;-)

You know me so well love!  ;-)  I am a total thrillseeker until it comes to crime!  LOL!  I don't know if I could handle the fear of sitting in the car with some idiot who's just endangered somebody somehow!  The human being/parent in me may be inclined to go off on them!  LOL! 

On one of your day's off, we should go ride! 

 

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

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I'm going for it!

 When I get a chance to stop by OPD I'll get the ball rolling on the process.  If/when it happens I will put a nice article up on Olyblog, complete with what pics I can take.

 

"si vis pacem, para bellum"


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Are You Allowed To Take Pics

on ride alongs?

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

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I would certainly ask first

You would have to be careful with certain things I would expect.
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