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Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 11:52am.

Almost every week this is the "What's on the city council's plate this week" review. I don't cover everything, so if you want the full rundown, read the packet and agenda yourself.

Why hold an election on whether to conduct a study on the proposed ithmus park when just doing the study costs a lot less? City staff wonder:

Approximately $30-70,000 for just the feasibility analysis.  The source of funds for the feasibility analysis has been referred to the finance committee.

...the City Council would have to submit the measure to a vote of the people at the next election, in February 2009.  The February 2009 election would be considered a “special election.”  A special election typically costs the City between $100-120,000 depending on the number of issues on the ballot.   This is significantly higher than our costs for a general or primary election.  Special elections typically have few ballot measures as compared to a primary or general election.  Therefor; the costs are only shared with the jurisdictions that have ballot measures. 

I wonder too.

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Special Election

I am still wondering about how $50,000 of public money was spend on a study of a rezone proposal by and for a private luxury housing development project.

That's the wrong kind of socialism.

I would like to see Tri-way remunerate the City and the People of Olympia for the $50,000 rezone study - the money then can be used for the park feasibility analysis.

Emmett, thank you for reporting on this.

bert




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One reason

is that it would provide information about how the community really stands on the rezone. Rezone proponents would tend to vote against the study and opponents, for. No more bickering about who shows up at council meetings and what they represent.
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Support for Study

Rezone proponents might also want to vote for the study, considering the results might prove that construction of a park would be unfeasible.

For this reason, I wish that the initiative would have been simply to oppose the rezone. Put that on the ballot. Worry about the park later.

Maybe someone wants to work on organizing a "no rezone" initiative.




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Sure, Bert. Some might.

But I am quite confident that most proponents would vote "no" and most opponents would vote "yes" on the study. The special election would still be a very good barometer of citizen opinions on the rezone question or the process.
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Legal limits on initiatives

You can't legally pass a land use measure by initiative.

Best,
Thad


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Land Use Initiative

Thanks for the information, Thad. I am considering why land-use measures are not legally approachable by initiative. It seems anti-democratic to me.

I wonder... what are some of the potential dangers and pit-falls of letting the public decide about land use?




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The rules on initiative and referendum in Olympia

From the City's FAQ (At the end you'll see this particular issue turns on whether or not the State has explicitly assigned the power in question to the Council... My flat "No" actually fudged the issue a little, because maybe the isthmus isn't a "site-specific rezone," but I think that maybe the lawyers who drafted the initiative didn't want to have the work of gathering 4,000 signatures rest on testing that theory.

What statutory limitations are placed on the right of referendum in the City of Olympia?

RCW 35A11.090 contains a list of types of ordinances that are not subject to the power of referendum in the City of Olympia. This list includes emergency ordinances, ordinances providing for local improvement districts, ordinances appropriating money, ordinances providing for collective bargaining, ordinances for compensation or other working conditions of City employees, and ordinances authorizing or repealing the levy of taxes.

What other limitations are placed on the exercise of the powers of initiative and referendum?

The courts in Washington have imposed two tests to determine if a specific ordinance is subject to the powers of initiative and referendum. The first test is whether the underlying action is administrative or legislative. Only legislative actions are subject to initiative and referendum; administrative actions are not. The second test is to determine if the power is one that has been granted to the City Council or whether that power has been granted to the corporate entity (voters) as a whole. If it is a power that has been granted to the City Council specifically, then it is not subject to initiative and referendum.

What is an administrative action and what is a legislative action for purposes of determining if an action is subject to initiative and referendum?

The courts have established two tests to determine this. Actions relating to subjects of a permanent and general character are usually regarded as legislative in nature, and actions relating to subjects of a temporary and special character are usually regarded as administrative in nature. Secondly, the power to be exercised is legislative in nature if it prescribes a new policy or plan, while it is administrative in nature if it merely pursues a policy or plan already adopted by the City Council.

Is a rezone ordinance subject to the referendum process in the City of Olympia?

No. This specific issue was the subject of a court case, Leornard v. Bothell, 87 Wn.2d 847 (1976). Although the court considered a site-specific rezone to be an administrative action, it held that the authority to adopt and modify the zoning code in a code city had been given by the state legislature to the City Council and so a site-specific rezone is not subject to the power of referendum.

Best,
Thad


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perfect example of why...

 

...I would not choose to work for the City of Olympia, either as a consultant or staff.

I think this is the wrong direction to go down, but I'll just continue to pay my local tax and hope for the best. Thanks for posting Emmett, your CJ work on keeping this info on OlyBlog is one of the main reasons I visit the site-

-that, and the sexy layout.

chad360

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