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Submitted by Phan on Mon, 06/04/2007 - 6:09pm.
Jun 5 2007 - 7:00pm Jun 5 2007 - 9:00pm 7:00 PM Olympia Center, room 101/102 222 Columbia St NW, Downtown Olympia With the US in its fourth year of occupation in Iraq, what lessons can be learned from Israel's 40-year occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and the Golan Heights? To mark the 40th anniversary of the illegal Israeli occupation, Olympians for Peace in the Middle East (OPME) is sponsoring a teach-in about the June 1967 War. A common misperception about the Palestine-Israel conflict is that it has existed since the dawn of time. In reality, the conflict has transpired for less than a hundred years. One of the major events that defined the conflict is the June 1967 War, commonly known as the "Six-Day War." The June 1967 War: * secured US military, political, and financial support for Israel * helped shape current US policy in the Middle East * began the establishment of illegal Israeli settlements * and started the longest military occupation in modern history In order to understand US foreign policy in the Middle East, US support for Israel, and why the Palestine-Israel conflict is central to the Arab world, you must understand what happened in June 1967. Featured speakers: Professor Steve Niva will be speaking on the facts behind the 1967 war and the ongoing consequences for the United States and the Middle East. Professor Therese Saliba will be reading oral histories she collected of Palestinians after 1967. Farihan Bushnaq, Palestinian-American and Olympia resident, will be giving her personal recollections of life after the 1967 War. |
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Hi Phan,
Submitted by Phil Owen on Mon, 06/04/2007 - 11:40pm.Thanks for the post on the upcoming event.
BTW, it would be really great to have you engage in the discussion here at Olyblog... I think your knowledge on the conflict and experience with the Palestinian people would be a big contribution to the conversations here.
So please feel free to dive in!
The Canaanite's Call
yeah, why no peace?
Submitted by chad360 on Tue, 06/05/2007 - 5:48pm.I'm at a loss to understand, so any help would be great--
Why folks fight so much over there is a big mystery to me, esp. when the area is so bleak to begin with...like Death Valley, CA/US
I'm amazed by intolerance that is rooted/based in relgious doctine/rhetoric...is this really a religion thing or economic conflict, or what?!
Any books suggestions, vids, etc...would be great--
Some background information on the 'Religion of Peace"
Submitted by Tschida on Tue, 06/05/2007 - 10:13pm.Excerpt from the book
Secrets of the Koran / Revealing Insight into Islam's Holy Book Don Richardson.
Anti-Western and Anti-Israel Only? Or Anti-Christian Also?
This book demonstrates clearly why the Muslims are given to fight against the Jews on all fronts. They are called to it by their 'holy' book. It is also in their other writings. Israel offered Arafat everything they wanted in peace talks and he turned it down in order to continue war with his enemies. It is sad to see anti Semitic things on this blog like "A common misperception about the Palestine-Israel conflict is that it has existed since the dawn of time. In reality, the conflict has transpired for less than a hundred years. One of the major events that defined the conflict is the June 1967 War, commonly known as the "Six-Day War."
The June 1967 War:
* secured US military, political, and financial support for Israel
* helped shape current US policy in the Middle East
* began the establishment of illegal Israeli settlements
* and started the longest military occupation in modern history"Not only is this untrue it demonstrates a lack of education or understanding of history of the Jewish people, or the battle for the control of the land of Israel, Particularly Jerusalem.
C.
Be careful about citing
Submitted by Phil Owen on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 9:37am.Be careful about citing books like these, Tschida. Christianity has its own small minded attackers - people with a grudge who attempt to use scripture against people of faith. Typically the arguments are ill informed and misleading. See Sam Harris for an example.
If you would like to learn about Islam in a more grounded, direct fashion, I'd recommend talking to Mohammed Ayub or the folks over at the Lacey Mosque. They're very welcoming of inquiries, even from people who hold a bias against Islam.
The Canaanite's Call
Now Phil,
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 1:19pm.One of these days...
Submitted by Phil Owen on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 6:10pm....I'm gonna get "Sam Harris" on you. Publicly. Here on Olyblog.
I'll dig up every post and comment you've made, cherry pick a few lines to take out of context, and then beat you over the head with them.
I'll tell you what you believe, and then I'll savagely attack you for the beliefs that I insist you hold.
I'll blame you for Stalinism. I'll hold up Pol Pot as the example of why your beliefs are bad. I'll even ask you, as if to make a point with the question, "Why do you hate puppies, Rob?"
Then, when you protest, I'll use the fact that you are protesting as an argument for your irrationality and defensiveness.
Just you wait.
P.S. I haven't burned your book yet. I'll have to unpack it first.
The Canaanite's Call
Wow
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 6:15pm.What happened to the happy-face icons?
Submitted by Phil Owen on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 6:22pm.That comment was intended to be a bit tongue in cheek. "go 'Sam Harris on you'"? Text just doesn't do the job, does it. Need the icons back for a little help.
The Canaanite's Call
I miss those happy faces
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 6:27pm.Really, though. Sam Harris
Submitted by Phil Owen on Wed, 06/06/2007 - 6:32pm.Really, though. Sam Harris may be well educated, but that doesn't mean he's intellectually honest. He takes a fundamentalist interpretation of scripture (one that requires no intellectual effort, and no background research), proclaims it to be the "correct" interpretation, and then uses it to savagely berate the "moderates" for believing in what he sees to be an "immoral" book.
His very use of the word "moderate" gives me the shivers. Let's get something clear: Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc are not "extremist Christians". They're extremist bigots. Martin Luther King, Oscar Romero, Dorothy Day, St Francis, etc are extremist Christians. An extremist Christian is a person who lives out the Kingdom calling in an extreme way. In that sense, I'm a moderate. And, in that sense, the word "moderate" is a bad word indeed.
Yet the way that Harris uses the word "moderate", you would think that people like me are lesser versions of Pat Robertson. It's an insult.
The Canaanite's Call